Becky is disillusioned to find out that an internet joke isn’t code for dismantling US concentration camps.  She and Justin reflect on their participation in protests and direct action.

Becky, Luke, and Josh discuss how religious freedom, including freedom not to be religious, balances with secular law in the case of libraries, schools, parking lots, zoning, and medicine; they dissect how misguided zealots or conspiracy theorists are warping religious freedom to trash LGBT+ folks, literacy, and scientifically informed education.