This week we talk about cruciform beverages, religious field trips, and death conversion therapy.   Casey and Dave join Sam in the studio.

In the first segment Meredith, Sam, and Wes talk wire taps, pledges, and surprising new atheist groups.  Following that discussion we sit down and listen to Shelley‘s music live in the studio, with several unexpected surprises.   So unexpected Sam didn’t really know it was happening until we were recording it.

Sam and Becky speak with Shelley Segal and Rob in the studio about immigration, Russian flags, and being on tour.   We also discuss I-1552, supernatural politics, and CQNW.  

This week Sam hosts as Josh and Tyson talk about stories where a bad argument, continually restated, has an opportunity to win.  

Sam welcomes Miles Greb, organizer of Seattle’s March for Science. Dan explains ozone. [Ranjan does something].