Becky talks with Shelley Segal about her new EP “Holy” and single “Our Resistance“; Rob J. Robertson accompanies. Includes reflections on the Passover story, racism, migration, women’s rights, and Shelley’s musical trajectory. Intense discussion of gun-related domestic violence from 20:44-27:00.

Sam, Luke, and Josh are all back in the studio to distinguish Hell from Heck, and atheism from Humanism. They comment on the Poway Synagogue shooting, address atheists’ electoral motives, and exorcism.