Nathan and Dan catch Becky up after a week at Camp Quest NorthWest. Becky explores how Secular Humanism can be used to address Trump’s immigration policy of inhumane terror. We address an atheist listener’s personal theory that we may be God creating itself.

Becky, Dan, and Josh ponder personhood for non-human animals, and the meaning of justice. Josh gets irate over Operation Carwash that set the scene for Bolsonaro in Brazil, and Becky and Dan sway him from a biblically inspired diet. Becky fails to divide by 3.