Becky talks with Shelley Segal about her new EP “Holy” and single “Our Resistance“; Rob J. Robertson accompanies. Includes reflections on the Passover story, racism, migration, women’s rights, and Shelley’s musical trajectory. Intense discussion of gun-related domestic violence from 20:44-27:00.

Nathan and Dan catch Becky up after a week at Camp Quest NorthWest. Becky explores how Secular Humanism can be used to address Trump’s immigration policy of inhumane terror. We address an atheist listener’s personal theory that we may be God creating itself.